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| Tien, Krillin, Piccolo, Vegeta, Gohan, and Yamca vs. Mecha Frieza; Kikoho allowed;kienzan allowed | |
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Mar 22 2012, 11:28 PM Post #1 |
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All of them are at the time of Mecha Frieza's arrival. Some stuff:
IMO? At the weakest, Piccolo, Vegeta, Gohan, and Krillin would be needed to take on Frieza. At the strongest, just Piccolo and Vegeta could take on Mecha Frieza. |
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| Kblo247 | Mar 23 2012, 12:25 AM Post #2 |
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I think Yamcha and Tien are useless at this point as I have him learning Neo Tri Beam in the 3 year gap. I think they were in over the heads while the other 4 knew they weren't even at the tip of the iceberg yet with Frieza. Personally I feel Vegeta could be pushed over the SSJ edge in this battle at the thought of losing and dying at Friezas hands again. Piccolo would also be more useful thnk he was on Namek. Plus we know Krillin and Gohan would know what they were getting into this time, and in the anime they were much better Call it a 50/50 toss up where I feel they end it after a war and with teamwork as the 4 would fight together this time around Edited by Kblo247, Mar 23 2012, 12:25 AM.
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| SuperSaiyan1993 | Mar 23 2012, 12:42 AM Post #3 |
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It's a long shot but with some exemplary team work and the fight of their lives, the Z fighters COULD pull this off. IMO, their best bet would be for Krillin and Gohan being decoys while Piccolo and Vegeta blitz him. Of course, if Vegeta is pushed to the edge and turns into a SSJ, he obliterates Mecha Frieza faster than his son did |
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| InterWebZ | Mar 23 2012, 04:45 AM Post #4 |
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Unless Vegeta goes SSJ, I think the Z fighters are toast. None of them are likely to be anywhere near mecha-Frieza's level, and even working together I don't think they can do it. Piccolo was last seen at around 2nd form Freiza, still nowhere near final form, and I doubt he could have advanced that far yet- maybe 3rd form if he's lucky. And at best, I can't see base Vegeta being any more than base Goku when he fought Frieza, which wasn't enough to beat him. |
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| Battle Power | Mar 23 2012, 11:25 AM Post #5 |
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Yeah I agree, the only way I see the group winning is if Vegeta goes SSJ mid-battle, which could happen since we all know how Freeza likes to play. |
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Mar 23 2012, 11:54 AM Post #6 |
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Well Tenshinhan, Piccolo and Vegeta should be the useful ones here. Tenshinhan wanted to outright settle the score with Vegeta while Piccolo was all up for beating Vegeta's face in. They should all be rivaling each other [at least] in this order; Piccolo>[Tenshinhan's Kikoho?]>Vegeta>Tenshinhan imo. As for Gohan and Krillin, it's pretty much guesswork. All we know is Gohan wasn't training and Krillin, in the only panel we see him before Mecha Freeza's arrival, is just wearing casual clothes implying he at most doing 'casual' training (like Vegeta and maybe Yamcha). But really, I don't see Mecha Freeza losing. That said, Piccolo and Goku 'had a chance' against Raditz so I suppose they could have 'a chance' if they all ganged up. Edited by Cocoman, Mar 23 2012, 11:56 AM.
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| Battle Power | Mar 24 2012, 12:35 PM Post #7 |
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Raditz was an exception for the stomping factor since he had the tail as a weakness. |
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| sylentknyte | Mar 24 2012, 05:23 PM Post #8 |
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I dont think they would have stood a chance against Mecha Frieza, but I do think they could have stalled him long enough for Goku to have arrived. Vegeta, and Piccolo, at best, have a PL in the single digit millions, while Frieza is in the tens or hundreds of millions. Through solid teamwork, I think they could scrape by with their lives. Like someone else said, theres also the freak possibility of Vegeta going SSJ, which would mean victory. |
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| Hugga_Bear | Mar 24 2012, 05:27 PM Post #9 |
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If Tien has neo-tri beam he can help, otherwise it's basically Vegeta and Piccolo against Frieza and boy oh boy, do they get stomped. They'd be able to buy enough time for Goku to arrive, go SSJ and make Frieza cry like a little b***h but without a SSJ burst from Vegeta they're just way too outclassed, their techniques are good but they're too far behind to be effective. |
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Mar 24 2012, 06:39 PM Post #10 |
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Piccolo was the one who said they had a chance and he didn't know about his weakness. |
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| Battle Power | Mar 25 2012, 11:27 AM Post #11 |
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There's a possiblity he was thinking about his Makankosappo, since Raditz himself stated that it would be fatal. I can't remember for sure though. |
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Mar 25 2012, 02:08 PM Post #12 |
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Well they only thought of using special attacks when they realized they couldn't beat him going straight at him together. |
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Mar 26 2012, 12:36 AM Post #13 |
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Well, here's how I see it now: Krillin has kienzan Tien has kikoho Vegeta and Piccolo are very strong, strong enough that Goku thought one of them beat Frieza, and Gohan is strong as well Yamcha and Chiaoutzu could also spam ki blasts to aid in the fight Vegeta and Piccolo and Gohan have the raw power, Krillin and Tien have the good techniques, and Yamcha and Chiaoutzu could aid in the fight. 100% Frieza would be at 120,000,000. They would each need a PL of about 20,000,000 to match up to this. Piccolo (Frieza Saga): ~1,200,000 Vegeta (Post Zenkai from Krillin): ~5,000,000 Gohan (Zenkai from Recoome): ~40,000 (and this is being modest IMO) Krillin (Frieza Saga): ~13,000 Piccolo (Mecha Frieza Arrival): >4,000,000? (assuming he trained) Vegeta (Mecha Frieza Arrival): >9,000,000 Gohan (Mecha Frieza Arrival): >90,000? (assuming he trained) Krillin (Mecha Frieza Arrival): >50,000? (assuming he trained) Yamcha (Mecha Frieza Arrival): >40,000? Tien (Mecha Frieza Arrival): >60,000? Chiaoutzu (Mecha Frieza Arrival): >25,000? IDK, I only have the humans strong by the time the androids arrive, because of the three years of training they did |
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| HersheyDux | Mar 26 2012, 12:39 AM Post #14 |
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All of their power levels combined probably isn't half of Mecha Frieza power (power he used against Trunks, not 100%). Frieza roflstomps them all in less then half of a DBZ second. |
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| NeoSSayajin | Mar 26 2012, 12:39 AM Post #15 |
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Krillin should be at least 250.000 at the fight with Frieza for Vegeta to think that he is useful. Gohan should be at least 500.000 and his enraged burst's up to 3.000.000 or more to thrash other superior forms of Frieza. Moreover, Vegeta rejected Monster Zarbon's proposition to team up to fight 1st Form Frieza, and Monster Zarbon is around 29.000. So if Vegeta thought Krillin should be useful against 2nd Form Frieza, then Krillin has to be at least at 250.000 - 300.000 Edited by NeoSSayajin, Mar 26 2012, 12:49 AM.
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